162 | I’m Friends With a Lot of Wild People

This is a special one. Get ready to be surprised. Joe Hallam and Heidi reverse roles and Joe interviews the Heidi — asking about the poet self, the teacher self and the tender (sometimes unspoken) self.

Joe invites a deep dive. Heidi is an Aries, with Leo Rising and a Capricorn Moon.

POEMS

"Nameless" and "I Want to Tell You" by Heidi Rose Robbins from her book, This Beckoning Ceaseless Beauty